6 posts • Page 1 of 1
Were these new or used? Was there any kind of exemption # on the bill? From what I'm seeing in a Google search, the law varies state to state.
Here's my experence with used batteries, intrastate in CA: If they were shrink wrapped on pallets, they were considered non-hazardous, if they were floor loaded it was hazardous, there was a CA exemption # on the bills, I also called our hazmat dept, gave them the info, they also said no placards required.
You would have to know the exact quantity of acid.
I pulled a similar load once... the shipper (which was a large, reputable manufacturer) claimed that the total amount of acid involved did not exceed the reportable quantity (1000 lbs) and therefore did not require placarding. Since the exact quantity of acid was not specified on the bills, about all I could do was simply agree with their assessment.
Edit -- Oh, it is definitely hazmat, which is why the shipper included the hazmat info on the bills, and is why they put an X in the HM (HazMat) column. I was addressing the issue of whether or not placards were required. If placards are not required then the driver is not required to have a Hazmat endorsement (with a few select exceptions that do not apply in this case). You should have a Hazmat Compliance book on the truck, you can find the info there (if not you can buy one in most truck stops).
Just for grins and giggles, let's do some math. Assume 15 ounces of acid in each battery (could be more or less, who knows) times 1,064 batteries = 15,960 ounces divided by 16 ounces (in one pound) = 997.5 lbs of acid onboard = no placards required (by my interpretation).
Only by the hair on your chiny chin chin (or as in trucker math).
With Trucking Companies the only thing that changes is the Color of the Truck and the Name on The Door!!
See Part 173.159 for the applicable exceptions, packaging requirements for non-bulk & bulk shipments:
IOW, no placards.
"If men were angels...No government would be necessary."
51st Federalist Papers
"Nichols' Fourth Law says, "Avoid any action with an unacceptable outcome"
Thank you very much for the timley response everyone. I picked up this load yesterday and delivered it today and I had asked if it was a hazmat load before they loaded me (broker load), and they had said "no" but I was still unsure because of the way the bills read as if it were a hazmat load. The Carrier that I work for doesn't do hazmat and you all know that its a big no no to do it and not be registered. I made all the necessary calls and such to be sure before I took the load but because of the way the bills read I was still unsure. again thanks for the response. it took a load off of my mind and yes it met all the criteria that John Q posted so it was in fact legal.
6 posts • Page 1 of 1
Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 3 guests